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the fbi says that no one was hit. they're also not saying who fired the shots. one woman was transported for a minor injury that was unrelated to the shooting and has since been released. the fbi will not say what the search warrant was for. >>> someone stole mike shanahan's passport and also some money. this happened two weeks ago while the redskins were in pittsburgh playing the steelers. there's no word on how much money was taken. the money and passport was stolen from shanahan's locker at the heinz field. >>> three people were killed after hamas fired rockets into israel. they are the latest fatalities of the latest e conflict to hit the coastal region. five others were injured in that attack. >>> president obama is visiting new york city today. he's getting an update from local officials on superstorm sandy's recovery efforts and the cities most outer burro. randall pinkston talked to staten island residents about the visit. >> reporter: rudy is glad the president is looking at the damage. some relates say fema and private groups have not done enough to ge
the fbi says that no one was hit. they're also not saying who fired the shots. one woman was transported for a minor injury that was unrelated to the shooting and has since been released. the fbi will not say what the search warrant was for. >>> someone stole mike shanahan's passport and also some money. this happened two weeks ago while the redskins were in pittsburgh playing the steelers. there's no word on how much money was taken. the money and passport was stolen from shanahan's...
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but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern here, then, that an outsider could have access, quite simply, to sensitive information and intelligence? >> well, that is the concern when it starts. but when you look into that, in the cia or fbi headquarters or any of the intel agencies, often you have dual computer systems so that you can receive outside e-mails because someone might send a complaint over the public internet service providers. and then of course, you have the classified e-mail systems internally, and they're completely separate. but t
but why would the fbi investigate the cia e-mails? why is this something the agency would handle internally? >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threaten another person. so that is where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet. and since they're coming into someone working at cia headquarters, and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and...
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the fbi investigated to see whether the affair would be a security risk. >> reporter: it was just over a year ago, his wife by his side, that one of america's most decorated generals took the oath of office as cia director. today he resigned in disarrays. in a statement -- in disgrace." i showed extremely poor judgment by gentlemen of engaging in an extra marital affair." the affair came to light during an investigation that started months ago. officials became concerned about e-mails he exchanged with his biographer. >> it's sad. >> reporter: cbs 5 military analyst colonel brendan carney met him during his book tour >> she acknowledged she had been given unfetterred access to him. >> does that seem suspicious to you when you think back? >> in 31 years of being around an awful lot of general officers, i've never heard of anybody having the type of access that she had. and was i suspicious? no. i'm not going to give myself credit for that. >> reporter: the white house insists it knew nothing about the investigation until petraeus told the president after the election. his confession com
the fbi investigated to see whether the affair would be a security risk. >> reporter: it was just over a year ago, his wife by his side, that one of america's most decorated generals took the oath of office as cia director. today he resigned in disarrays. in a statement -- in disgrace." i showed extremely poor judgment by gentlemen of engaging in an extra marital affair." the affair came to light during an investigation that started months ago. officials became concerned about...
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i wish them the best at this difficult time. >> as for the fbi investigation, in the end fbi agents did not find evidence of criminal activity. >> thank you very much. general petraeus was one of the first to brief law makers followinglet u.s. mission in libya. katherine herage has the latest. >> in the white house, jay carny pushed back on allegations that the administration was not forth coming on the benghazi attack. specifically what happened at 5:00 in the white whoit. >> the president was made aware of the developments throughout the evening and days ensuing and i am not what your question is specifically. >> they are not independent investigation. carny pointed to the review and public time line that laid out military response and a similar briefing by intelligence officials emergency response. >> next week they are scheduled with state department patrick kennedy who is charged with overseeing staff. and eric bonswell who is charged with security in benghazi. and while they emphasizes what was known in benghazi. all will be close except one. that was congress' call. >> my underst
i wish them the best at this difficult time. >> as for the fbi investigation, in the end fbi agents did not find evidence of criminal activity. >> thank you very much. general petraeus was one of the first to brief law makers followinglet u.s. mission in libya. katherine herage has the latest. >> in the white house, jay carny pushed back on allegations that the administration was not forth coming on the benghazi attack. specifically what happened at 5:00 in the white whoit....
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and that's how the fbi discovered their affair. in the meantime tonight, much is being made of this interview that he gave at the university of denver a few months ago. >> and now i don't know how long you have heard this. >> reporter: talking about embedded information on the u.s. consulate in libya. they think it was an effort that is still being embedded. >> tonight, they report that the fbi agents have found classified information on broadwell's computer. >> and i do not know how she got that information. we should find out. i do not know why it is a rather confused situation. >> there is another twist to the story. the fbi agent who originally launched the investigation was taken off the case for sending the shirtless photo to jill kelly. as to what we're hearing from petraeus, he is set spending time with his family and his wife holly is said to be furious. >>> breaking news out of oakland. they resigned a scandal involving the strip club. at a bill for the houston club in 2008. the bill was submitted, but they were there wit
and that's how the fbi discovered their affair. in the meantime tonight, much is being made of this interview that he gave at the university of denver a few months ago. >> and now i don't know how long you have heard this. >> reporter: talking about embedded information on the u.s. consulate in libya. they think it was an effort that is still being embedded. >> tonight, they report that the fbi agents have found classified information on broadwell's computer. >> and i do...
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., he was assassinated making an undercover drug buy working with the fbi. and that was the turning point for me. it made me really see how violent our community had become because of the prohibition of drugs like marijuana. and it's time -- >> are you in favor of legalizing all drugs? >> oh, absolutely. we have to get it away from criminal hands. our communities have become so violent because we turned the management of drugs in our communities over to criminal gangs. our neighborhood gangs, the cartel, you know, the u.s. department of justice said just a couple of years ago that the cartel were operating in 230 communities in our country. today, they reported that it's over 1,000. it's not getting any better. putting money in the hands of criminal gangs and organizations so that they can enter into other criminal enterprise. look at mexico. over the past five to six years they had over 60,000 of their citizens murdered by the cartel. 10,000 citizens still missing. thousands of orphans who were being recruited by the cartel to carry on the criminal business
., he was assassinated making an undercover drug buy working with the fbi. and that was the turning point for me. it made me really see how violent our community had become because of the prohibition of drugs like marijuana. and it's time -- >> are you in favor of legalizing all drugs? >> oh, absolutely. we have to get it away from criminal hands. our communities have become so violent because we turned the management of drugs in our communities over to criminal gangs. our...
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so the fbi can't go on a fishing expedition. they can't look for jenna lee's e-mails to me anymore than they want to look at general petraeus's e-mails to mrs. broadwell without establishing the probability of a criminal act and persuading a neutral federal judge that the there was probably evidence of criminal activity here. short of that, there is no search warrant. and any viewing of the e-mails without a search warrant is a crime by them. now, they could write their own search warrant under the patriot act but in order to do they have to satisfy themselves that this was an investigation into terrorism. that's obviously not the case either. i think they ran amok with general petraeus's life and with his liberties and for that he is out of a job and it's wrong. rick: i've been following your career for many years and i know that you are a champion of individual liberties, individual rights but when someone signs up for the job of cia director and that person is entrusted with the most sensitive secrets that we have in our coun
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this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this affair, would have used it as blackmail against petraeus to get our biggest secrets, and that's why with the security clearance you are not supposed to compromise yourself in this way. >> let me go to the congressman. so the fbi director had to know. he meets with the president. eric holder had to know, he meets with the president. we are saying a cia director that is involved in a compromising situation that's correct that was not brought to the attention of the president? what if it wasn't? is that not dereliction of duty in is that not incompetence on that part? if the president did know, what doe
this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this...
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that individual went to the fbi in the pursuit of that review of that threat. they came upon access to e-mails of mr. petraeus. and with this individual. and their concern maybe that his personal e-mails had been hacked and therefore the possibility of a security threat. and i think that if that is the sequence of events that's perfectly understandable. obviously, you know, there was a discussion between jim clapper and petraeus and there was a decision by general petraeus that it was in his best interests of himself, the agency, and his family to resign. so unless something else comes out i think it's pretty clear. i don't see a conspiracy behind every curtain as some of my colleagues do. >> okay. senator, let me turn to the so-called fiscal cliff, which now we're looking at through the prism of what just happened in the elections. as far as you're concerned, is there a mandate that came out of this election that taxes should be raised on the wealthy? that seems to be what democrats are arguing. >> i think there are two mandates. number one is the electorate w
that individual went to the fbi in the pursuit of that review of that threat. they came upon access to e-mails of mr. petraeus. and with this individual. and their concern maybe that his personal e-mails had been hacked and therefore the possibility of a security threat. and i think that if that is the sequence of events that's perfectly understandable. obviously, you know, there was a discussion between jim clapper and petraeus and there was a decision by general petraeus that it was in his...
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he was tipped off by an fbi employee a couple weeks ago. he followed up with the fbi to make sure the investigation was ongoing. we're going to hear a lot more about this during the course of the week. remember initially general david petraeus himself was supposed to testify about the benghazi attack in front of a couple of committees in congress, closed-door meetings. now he will not be there, this guy will. this is the michael more rel, acting director of the see ia. back to you guys. martha: that raises so many questions. we'll talk about them this morning. why would general petraeus not testify to an event he was privy to and on his watch? we'll ask michael hayden, the former cia director coming up. we'll talk to kt mcfarland about all this. doug, thank you lawmakers are wonder why they were never informed. senator diian feinstein is asking about the questions that came up. >> i informed my vice chairman and i talked to the director device. this is very hard stuff. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before
he was tipped off by an fbi employee a couple weeks ago. he followed up with the fbi to make sure the investigation was ongoing. we're going to hear a lot more about this during the course of the week. remember initially general david petraeus himself was supposed to testify about the benghazi attack in front of a couple of committees in congress, closed-door meetings. now he will not be there, this guy will. this is the michael more rel, acting director of the see ia. back to you guys. martha:...
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he has the highest ranking position in the fbi cyber decision and he will be playing the fbi director swedes general cartwright playing the role of the national security advisor and the bill is the secretary of defense. this is perfect to play that role and we have steve out of the fbi. on your screen you also see their roles that they are playing on your table we also have the agenda. and dmitri alperovitch is the co-founder and chief technology officer at the computer security fixture. he focused business and government on how to protect their intellectual properties, and dmitri is to deploy the ceo of the oil company that gets hit in the exercise. and we have james lewis beside him, the senior program director for csis and he's worked at the state department and commerce and he is a leading on fiber for the united nations group of the government of experts on information security and about town everybody knows what we're talking about sires. he's the secretary of state today. so we have the ceo of the company, secretary of state coming and we also have benjamin powell, he is the pa
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we have learned there was an fbi investigation underway. i think there are a number of questions raised, including, you know, at what point did the director of the fbi become aware of this? why was this just announced today? talk about your perspective on the implication, broadly speaking on our nation's intelligence efforts and the benghazi investigation? >> well, first of all, it's sad fall from grace. i feel for his wife. nobody should have to go through that. but this is highly suspicious, in its timing t. comes days after an election, a very important election. it comes days before he's set to testify before the house intelligence committee. and it really begs the question of what did the fbi know? and when did they know it? how long did they sit on that information? general petraeus briefed the senate about what happened in benghazi. did he have this looming over his head? what -- what is the real timing here, liz? that's the real question that i think going forward is so imperative that we get to the bottom of. >> also, the issue, as
we have learned there was an fbi investigation underway. i think there are a number of questions raised, including, you know, at what point did the director of the fbi become aware of this? why was this just announced today? talk about your perspective on the implication, broadly speaking on our nation's intelligence efforts and the benghazi investigation? >> well, first of all, it's sad fall from grace. i feel for his wife. nobody should have to go through that. but this is highly...
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then there's the fbi investigation that inadvertently exposed the whole thing. a probe into some harassing e-mails allegedly sent by petraeus's biography, paula broadwell. tonight nbc has learned who the fbi believes was on the receiving end of those e-mails. nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker has been working the story. she joins us now with the latest developments. kristen? >> reporter: lester, good evening. according to multiple government officials, the woman who made the initial complaint to the fbi is a close family friend of general petraeus, and there is no indication of anything more. now, the details are still murky, and lawmakers are demanding more answers. ♪ >> reporter: according to a senior federal official and close friend of david petraeus, 37-year-old jill kelly complained to fbi agents about being harassed by paula broadwell, david petraeus's biography. a senior u.s. military official says jill kelly is involved in wounded warrior fund-raising in tampa, is married, she and her husband are close family friends. officials say pet
then there's the fbi investigation that inadvertently exposed the whole thing. a probe into some harassing e-mails allegedly sent by petraeus's biography, paula broadwell. tonight nbc has learned who the fbi believes was on the receiving end of those e-mails. nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker has been working the story. she joins us now with the latest developments. kristen? >> reporter: lester, good evening. according to multiple government officials, the woman who made...
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shannon: we know the fbi was investigating. they weren't after petraeus but they apparently stumbled on information that drew in this personal information. but for the fbi to have access to the e-mails of the director of the cia, i imagine somebody in the executive branch would have had to have known. access would have been grants or there would have been some red flags raised at some high levels. >> i'm not discussing the merits of the indiscretion so much as i am the government process. from the reports we have to date i think the fbi's conduct is sensible right up to the point where they discover relationship between he trace and broadwell. i find it incredible to think once that was uncovered it did not go immediately to the director of the fbi. i find incredible once the director learned he wouldn't call up the attorney general and say i need to put this in front of you. if the "wall street journal" is correct that this happens in the late summer, let's say labor day. a little bit before labor day. what did eric holder do
shannon: we know the fbi was investigating. they weren't after petraeus but they apparently stumbled on information that drew in this personal information. but for the fbi to have access to the e-mails of the director of the cia, i imagine somebody in the executive branch would have had to have known. access would have been grants or there would have been some red flags raised at some high levels. >> i'm not discussing the merits of the indiscretion so much as i am the government process....
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number two, we're talking about professionalism of the fbi. professional men and women who risk their lives every day to keep us safe and according to the attorney general, and i have no information that would contradict this, they gave the information at the appropriate moment in the investigation. look, the fbi is not supposed to disclose information, unless they believe there is a national security threat. i have no reason to believe they didn't do it until the appropriate moment. >> representative, do you agree with that? especially given that it was om this week that the fbi went to ms. broadwell's home, and removed boxes of information, some of which is classified? >> no, i would totally disagree. general petraeus was the head of the cia. he wasn't running the fish and wildlife department. there is a duty under the law to inform the ranking and chairman of house and senate intelligence. that is to deal with every investigation. and with national security be compromised? perhaps it would. i think that should go to the level of the preside
number two, we're talking about professionalism of the fbi. professional men and women who risk their lives every day to keep us safe and according to the attorney general, and i have no information that would contradict this, they gave the information at the appropriate moment in the investigation. look, the fbi is not supposed to disclose information, unless they believe there is a national security threat. i have no reason to believe they didn't do it until the appropriate moment. >>...
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>> the fact that he has been under investigation which he discussed today by the fbi raises questions about other things he has said and done recently that were kind of lofty, i thought. for example, he apparently gave a briefing to members of congress worry said that the video cost -- the hijacked spontaneous protest and led to the shooting and killing in benghazi. >> the idea of him being a straight shooter was called into question. >> feeling pressure to conform to the party line. he was under investigation. crazier things that happened. lou: that fbi has had scrutiny as the result of a separate and unrelated instigation there were conducting. this looks like it was baked up and declared ready today. does it not? >> the best day to dump affirmation you don't want in the public is a friday. resignation by the s ca director setting extramarital affair, to me knowing that he is going to congress are not going to congress next wednesday to testify about the benghazi instinet teeseven incident, this reeks of something far more sinister employee, and they don't want him to testify, for o
>> the fact that he has been under investigation which he discussed today by the fbi raises questions about other things he has said and done recently that were kind of lofty, i thought. for example, he apparently gave a briefing to members of congress worry said that the video cost -- the hijacked spontaneous protest and led to the shooting and killing in benghazi. >> the idea of him being a straight shooter was called into question. >> feeling pressure to conform to the...
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affair as the reason for his sudden resignation, but we are learning that the director has been under fbi scrutiny for some time. as a result of a separate investigation. we will bring you more as these developments are clear and as we receive them. retired four-star general david patraeus today resigned from the cia, and themplications into the bin does the investigation, the political implications for the obama white house, we will explore here tonight. turning back to the president's states campaign likke event today, he did not answer any questions or reveal any specifics about his fiscal vision, if you will, but he did repeat this familiar pronouncement. >> already i have put forward a detailed plan that allows us to make these investments while reducing our deficit by $4 trillion over the next decade i want to be clear. i am not wed to every detail of my plan. i am open to compromise. i am open to new ideas. i am commtted to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any approach that is not balanced in. him. lou: well, will the republican-led party provide any cotervaili
affair as the reason for his sudden resignation, but we are learning that the director has been under fbi scrutiny for some time. as a result of a separate investigation. we will bring you more as these developments are clear and as we receive them. retired four-star general david patraeus today resigned from the cia, and themplications into the bin does the investigation, the political implications for the obama white house, we will explore here tonight. turning back to the president's states...
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back to that fbi investigation, a u.s. official tells cnn that the fbi was not investigating them for any wrong doing, it was just about protecting him from blackmail, but that explanation is not setting well for some. >> the idea that the fbi is investigating the cia director for an extra marital affair is extraordinary. i have never seen it happen, and it smacks of george orwell. it's more to do than with sex. there is something going on they can't explain. >> this also raised questions regarding the role of the white house and the timing of the announcement. >> this is the key question right now in front of everybody. how extraordinary would it be that you have this type of fbi investigation into your cia director and the president is not informed of it? the word is circulating that the president was not aware that only one petraeus came to him, but it really seems to believe that someone in the white house didn't know that the fbi didn't inform the white house in some fashion. >> earlier, we talked to fran townsend who
back to that fbi investigation, a u.s. official tells cnn that the fbi was not investigating them for any wrong doing, it was just about protecting him from blackmail, but that explanation is not setting well for some. >> the idea that the fbi is investigating the cia director for an extra marital affair is extraordinary. i have never seen it happen, and it smacks of george orwell. it's more to do than with sex. there is something going on they can't explain. >> this also raised...
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testify before the house intelligence committee and it really begs the question he of what does the fbi know and when did they know it. how long did they sit on that information? i recall that general petraeus briefed the senate about what happened in benghazi. did he have this looming over his head? >> general petraeus, who has been married to his wife holly since 1974, called his extramarital affair, quote, unacceptable and said it showed quote, extremely poor judgment. president obama praised the retired four-star army general saying he had quote, provided extraordinary service to the united states for decades. and the key democrat in the senate, diane feinstein chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee lamented the loss of petraeus to the cia writing in a statement, quote, this is an enormous loss for our intelligence community and our country of the. i wish president obama had not accepted this resignation, but i understand and respect the decision. cia deputy director michael morelle will head the cia now until the president decides on another director. kelly and jamie. >> k
testify before the house intelligence committee and it really begs the question he of what does the fbi know and when did they know it. how long did they sit on that information? i recall that general petraeus briefed the senate about what happened in benghazi. did he have this looming over his head? >> general petraeus, who has been married to his wife holly since 1974, called his extramarital affair, quote, unacceptable and said it showed quote, extremely poor judgment. president obama...
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host: what about the fbi as far as the e-mail connection? guest: at the risk of sounding tin foil hatty, there is a long tradition of intelligence by protecting your source of coming up with false stories of how you obtain information. he cracked another country's encryption codes and you intercepted off of a wire and you cook up a story of how you had a break-in at the industry -- embassy and that the information that way. there might have been ways they were doing surveillance on intelligence people that they would not want to make public. paula broadwell became jealous of what she perceived as a filtration -- flirtation with her boyfriend and began sending e-mail from an anonymous account to this woman and her boyfriend. kelly reported this to the fbi. i cannot stress how absolutely bizarre this is. i have been hearing things over twitter from a lot of women saying, you do not know how impossible it is to get police to take it seriously when you have an actual threat when people are physically threatening your life with phone calls and e-
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>>guest: the fbi works for the justice department and the attorney general. their chain of command would be to take it to the attorney -- the hoover years stopped it. that is what is upsetting in the hoover years with one intelligence agency investigating another and not telling anyone else. >>neil: what do we make leaving aside the draw difficult -- the tawdry details, what do you make of the agency investigating this other agency? >>guest: they should have taken it up the chain of command and saying we don't want to be have thing this. we know that the president didn't know, and the format that key members of congress were not informs so, that is the problem, why did it just stop withholder. and the political angle was it withheld to use it as leverage over general petraeus after september 11th? did general petraeus know he was being investigated? >>neil: how would that affect the october trip? >>guest: who is the guy who knows the most about terrorism and what happened in benghazi, probably david petraeus, the chief al qaeda warrior and fighter for iraq, a
>>guest: the fbi works for the justice department and the attorney general. their chain of command would be to take it to the attorney -- the hoover years stopped it. that is what is upsetting in the hoover years with one intelligence agency investigating another and not telling anyone else. >>neil: what do we make leaving aside the draw difficult -- the tawdry details, what do you make of the agency investigating this other agency? >>guest: they should have taken it up the...
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the other store is when the fbi knew and the president knew. the time line they have is the president was informed after the election and thursday and that general clapper, the director of national intelligence, found out in a phone call on election day and told the white house on the day after the election. the fbi had been investigating for at least wreaks. >> months. >> i don't know if we are going to learn that's not true. we can deal with the questions. she it said he thought it was a terrorist attack. he went into closed meetings saying it was a video. perhaps he was doing it to protect the cia. i believe is he going to testify on capitol hill compelled by his own sense of duty or a subpoena. i think we are going to hear from him. the time of the election and sex scandal are not really important as much as what happened on the ground in benghazi, was there some kind of coverup to protect the cia and why would mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee and dianne feinstein chairman on the senate side not be informed of an on
the other store is when the fbi knew and the president knew. the time line they have is the president was informed after the election and thursday and that general clapper, the director of national intelligence, found out in a phone call on election day and told the white house on the day after the election. the fbi had been investigating for at least wreaks. >> months. >> i don't know if we are going to learn that's not true. we can deal with the questions. she it said he thought...